• Well, Pantheon is great DE, but every DE needs special care. That’s why most of small (and medium) distribution don’t support many DE. Every DE need some special care, while added to installer.

    But You are not the only one waiting for some new DE in installer :p In my case, I’m looking forward to see LXQT. Of course I can easily install it on my own, next to Openbox, for example (what I’ve already did :p).

    I bet, that if You will find some more Pantheon lovers here, devs well be more eager to include it to the installer

  • The installer doesn’t build from the AUR, it builds from the official arch repositories, and while I guess they could make a script that would build from AUR I’m not entirely sure that’d be part of the Antergos… [i:mqoupk3x]philosophy[/i:mqoupk3x], I guess.

    If the Pantheon team creates a stable binary and it gets included with the community repo though, I’m sure having it as an installation option could be quite possible. In my experiences however (a few weeks ago) it was extremely buggy. Indicators don’t work correctly as they’re dependent on Unity-specific methods, and at one point the pantheon-greeter broke my lightdm entirely to where I would only see a black screen after choosing antergos from grub. (I never did manage to fix that, wound up reinstalling. I wasn’t impressed.) And yet apparently I never learn, because I also tried it on a laptop of mine with Manjaro a few days ago, but once Pantheon loaded you were unable to logout/reboot/shutdown unless you used the terminal command to power off the system, and I also couldn’t find any settings for… well, anything, aside from “Desktop” which changed the wallpaper.

    There’s still a long way to go before it’s stable enough to be included as an installation option.

    As to DE support, I don’t really think there’s much “special care” needed for each DE actually. That implies upkeep of some sort, which is up to the user, not the Antergos developers. There’s certainly some [i:mqoupk3x]work[/i:mqoupk3x] that needs to be done creating the installation scripts and making sure everything goes through alright, sure… but we’re not like Linux Mint or something, where they’re basically overhauling Ubuntu every release to ensure their DEs still work. Because arch is a rolling release, it just doesn’t work like that.

  • I’m afraid that it’s highly unlikely that Pantheon will ever be stable enough for inclusion in the installer. Pantheon is developed with/for library versions that are more than a few versions behind what we are using in Arch. For example, as we will soon be moving to GTK 3.14 they have only just now begun beta testing 3.12. Anyway, I’ll “never say never” but I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting either

    Cheers!

  • For me I never got the need for pantheon when much better products like cinnamon exist.
    Heck for as much as I hate gnome shell its got lots of customization options.

  • i like having a choice on linux for De’s but its getting a little too much now. i think antergos is doing just fine with its current selection. no need to thin it out.

  • Too much? Aww come on, we don’t even have options for awesomewm, bspwm, herbstluft, lxde, budgie, enlightenment, i3, unity… that’s just off the top of my head, but yeah… you get the joke.

  • Hi,

    lxqt and enlightentment are in our TODO list… but I don’t know when we’ll be able to do it.

    Pantheon desktop is a no no as Dustin has explained (we totally agree on this one xD)

    Cheers!

  • @“losershawn”:27qiithy said:

    Too much? Aww come on, we don’t even have options for awesomewm, bspwm, herbstluft, lxde, budgie, enlightenment, i3, unity… that’s just off the top of my head, but yeah… you get the joke.[/quote:27qiithy]

  • @“karasu”:1nfdikp0 said:

    lxqt and enlightentment are in our TODO list… but I don’t know when we’ll be able to do it.[/quote:1nfdikp0]
    Well that’s actually impressive considering I was joking and trying to name off as many DEs/WMs as I could think of offhand.

    On an semi-related note though, I must admit I’ve never really seen understood the allure of Enlightenment before. I’ve seen screenshots and videos, but it just seems ugly and outdated, like something from the 90s. Of course I’m sure that could be fixed with themes, but still. Not a good first impression when you compare it to something like Gnome 3 with Numix Frost.

  • enlightnement wasnt really my thing either. i tried it for a while on my laptop.

    it did seem very fast!

  • I actually wound up installing it just to give it a shot firsthand. It’s not completely terrible, although it crashed out entirely when I went to remove an icon from the taskbar once. I couldn’t alt-tab or move/refocus windows, but I could still interact with them. It was weird.
    Also I’m really liking their Terminology program, so I guess I’m a sucker for eyecandy.

    Probably will stick with Gnome 3 for now though.

  • Hi,

    I was very impressed when e16 was out (we had KDE3 and Gnome2 that time), so I was expecting a lot from e17. Sadly, I never got used to it. It’s REALLY fast and eyecandy, but it feels wrong in some aspects. It’s more a feeling than really a good reason, so I encourage everybody to try it and see for themselves.

    Lxqt is because we offered LXDE, but having the Openbox version we don’t have any rush to work on it yet :p

    Cheers!

  • im going even farther off topic but with wayland coming in soon. is openbox going to be ok?

  • @“karasu”:glhfqwcq said:

    I was very impressed when e16 was out (we had KDE3 and Gnome2 that time), so I was expecting a lot from e17. Sadly, I never got used to it. It’s REALLY fast and eyecandy, but it feels wrong in some aspects. It’s more a feeling than really a good reason, so I encourage everybody to try it and see for themselves.[/quote:glhfqwcq]

    And interestingly enough as we’re talking about enlightenment… e19 came out yesterday afternoon.
    Get it from the AUR: [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/enlightenment-git/][0]">[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/enlightenment-git/][1]

    [0]: <a href=
    [1]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/enlightenment-git/

  • And interestingly enough as we’re talking about enlightenment… e19 came out yesterday afternoon.Get it from the AUR: [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/enlightenment-git/][0]">[https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/enlightenment-git/][1]

    It is also in thre regular extra repo pushed from testing yesterday [https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/enlightenment/][0]">[https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extr][2] … ghtenment/

    [0]: <a href=
    [1]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/enlightenment-git/
    [2]: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extr

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