• What's the difference between Arch and Ubuntu video drivers?


    I have used Antergos for quite some time. I love it! It’s my favorite distro. I just have one major problem that keeps me from using it as my primary OS; the video drivers are AWFUL! I have been using Deepin on Ubuntu for a few weeks and I like it, well, sort of. It was a pain trying to get Deepin working 100% and the missing AUR is annoying. The Askubuntu website is okay but most of my questions don’t get answered and are closed as off-topic there because I am using Deepin. The ONLY reason why I have been using Ubuntu is because of the video drivers. On Arch-based distros, the video drivers make it impossible to screen capture with any software. The screen has bad tearing. Entire pieces of my screen disappear at random frames and certain parts of windows will disappear so that you can see the windows behind them in the recording. It’s just REALLY bad especially when I use OBS every week. The strange part is that my screen looks fine in person but in the recording, it is impossible to tell what’s going on. Is there any way that I can uninstall the Arch video drivers and instead use the Ubuntu video drivers? I have Intel HD Graphics 3000 with an Intel I5 processor. The laptop is the Lenovo X220 Tablet Laptop.

  • @cadenmitchell said in What's the difference between Arch and Ubuntu video drivers?:

    Lenovo X220

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X220#Graphics

    https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/xf86-video-intel/

    https://01.org/linuxgraphics

    Ubuntu:
    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel ----> https://launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel

    So the drive should be the same, differs only in the way it is implemented?

    But do you read here? :
    Note: Some (Debian & Ubuntu, Fedora, KDE) recommend not installing the xf86-video-intel driver, and instead falling back on the modesetting driver for fourth generation and newer GPUs.
    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_graphics

  • @joekamprad So I don’t even need that xf86-video-intel driver? Could that really be the cause of all my frustrations, loss, and uninstallation? All because of a bad video driver that was designed for an older GPU? Could such a simple problem really be so easily camouflaged, hiding away under the disguise of a seemingly helpful package with good intentions? Is this really the only reason why I have been using Ubuntu, because of one small, outdated, and invisible thing. Thinking back I can still remember, the countless questions I’ve asked on Arch-based forums, Manjaro, Arch, and Anteros, all asking for help on fixing my OBS recording issue, and let’s not forget my constant my plights against the software configuration files, only to be ultimately devoid of happiness and success. To think now, that this all could have been fixed with one simple string of text entered into my system terminal, sudo pacman -R xf86-video-intel. Oh, the tragedy that all could have been avoided so very easily. But alas, I’ve found hope! I will reinstall Antergos on my system and maybe, just maybe, this can finally be over. Finally. -Caden Mitchell 2018

  • @joekamprad Also, does this require me to do anything other than just sudo pacman -R xf86-video-intel or do I have to install some other things and change some config files?

  • @cadenmitchell said in What's the difference between Arch and Ubuntu video drivers?:

    @joekamprad So I don’t even need that xf86-video-intel driver? Could that really be the cause of all my frustrations, loss, and uninstallation? All because of a bad video driver that was designed for an older GPU? Could such a simple problem really be so easily camouflaged, hiding away under the disguise of a seemingly helpful package with good intentions? Is this really the only reason why I have been using Ubuntu, because of one small, outdated, and invisible thing. Thinking back I can still remember, the countless questions I’ve asked on Arch-based forums, Manjaro, Arch, and Anteros, all asking for help on fixing my OBS recording issue, and let’s not forget my constant my plights against the software configuration files, only to be ultimately devoid of happiness and success. To think now, that this all could have been fixed with one simple string of text entered into my system terminal, sudo pacman -R xf86-video-intel. Oh, the tragedy that all could have been avoided so very easily. But alas, I’ve found hope! I will reinstall Antergos on my system and maybe, just maybe, this can finally be over. Finally. -Caden Mitchell 2018

    Thats poetry :)

  • i can try to reproduce your problem, as i own 2 different intel-gra based systems, but i was only interested and curious to what you where posting about UBUNTU, give here what i find about ;)

    And also caus i see popping up more and more users with intel-gra issues here…

    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Debian-Abandon-Intel-DDX

    https://tjaalton.wordpress.com/2016/07/23/intel-graphics-gen4-and-newer-now-defaults-to-modesetting-driver-on-x/

  • @joekamprad So is that xf86-video-modesetting driver package available on Arch? If it is I’m sure it will help a lot of other Intel graphics users! :) Also, maybe Arch distros could do something about this and make the driver the default for Intel users. ;)

  • @cadenmitchell moderator does not mean developer! So I am a user with some more rights on the forum software, nothing more, but I can see discussion on this on archforum:

    https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=229242
    So as it looks like the kernel made by archlinux is including this driver.
    And Debian/Ubuntu do not including it, or the package is made for configuration.

  • @joekamprad said in What's the difference between Arch and Ubuntu video drivers?:

    moderator does not mean developer!

    Oh. I didn’t mean that you were a developer. I just meant that if a developers were to see this forum post it may help Arch become more stable for Intel users.

  • @joekamprad said in What's the difference between Arch and Ubuntu video drivers?:

    https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=229242
    So as it looks like the kernel made by archlinux is including this driver.

    Sorry! Didn’t notice this part! This is great news! I guess I’ll try to install Antergos again and remove that package!

  • As it looks like it is not an issue with package itself and solution is may to simple do not install xf86-video-intel we can do that on installation for Antergos!

  • @cadenmitchell said in What's the difference between Arch and Ubuntu video drivers?:

    @joekamprad said in What's the difference between Arch and Ubuntu video drivers?:

    moderator does not mean developer!

    Oh. I didn’t mean that you were a developer. I just meant that if a developers were to see this forum post it may help Arch become more stable for Intel users.

    What i want to say is, that we need to push this into the right direction, if we want that to be changed.👉

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