• Is Deepin changing?


    I’m wondering this for a little while now, but the updates we recently got for the Deepin DE are mostly qt5 based and today I’ve received 46 updates which were mostly KDE related.
    The hardware I’m talking about is running Deepin and the other one Deepin with Gnome alongside, so no KDE installed.
    Maybe it is old news, but I couldn’t find anything on it, when I searched the internet. Just curious if someone of you knows a bit more about this.

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  • Deepin’s applications are all written in QT, so perhaps this is the cause? Other than that, I really have no idea.

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  • @Bryanpwo
    I’ve noticed the same, many KDE packages are coming as updates. I’m running Xfce.
    Well, to be honest, I have two KDE related packages, kaffeine and a small game. Actually, I checked, they have about a dozen KDE packages as dependencies, so that explains some of the updates.

  • @manuel Thanks for your explanation, but I didn’t receive those updates in XFCE (running fernandomaroto’s version of it on an older machine) I think, and this is pure guessing from my side, that the Deepin devs are deriving more from KDE based apps instead of Gnome.

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  • @Bryanpwo said in Is Deepin changing?:

    I think, and this is pure guessing from my side, that the Deepin devs are deriving more from KDE based apps instead of Gnome.

    I never really thought of that, but you’re probably right:grinning:. It would make sense, as I would assume that KDE would be less forceful than Gnome on what it can offer and what it can’t.

    Thank you for that idea, it was a completely new one for me!

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  • I really do hope that they won’t use kwallet as KDE, that one I really can live without. (kwallet was amongst others in today’s update)

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  • @Bryanpwo
    In Xfce, since I have installed kaffeine which needs kio, and that needs e.g. kwallet…
    Dependencies can cause surprising results!

    EDIT:
    You could try (but not execute!) removing kwallet:

    pacman -Rsn kwallet
    

    (but don’t answer Yes!) and see what a chain of dependencies you get. Since kwallet needs kio, you can add kio to the above:

    pacman -Rsn kwallet kio
    

    and see what happens…

  • @manuel
    I understand your theory, but the KDE updates came after Deepin released the 15.5 update and with that came some new apps. Therefore my guess is that the devs are moving away from Gnome, like Budgie is going to do in the next release. This thread wasn’t meant as a complaint, it was just something I noticed and was curious about.
    My only complaint I’ve addressed is kwallet, I found it always a bit annoying that at startup kwallet jumps up for a password when opening your browser for the first time, most of the time you’ve just entered your password for login. Until now Deepin doesn’t show that behavior, (yet) but when it will behave like that, I don’t know if I’m going to remove it. There must be a reason the devs put it in the system.

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  • @Bryanpwo
    Are you sure you didn’t install any kde stuff? I say that because i do this here, and that usually means many kde dependencies/libraries etc even for small packages…

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  • Maybe @developers can enlighten us?

  • @fernandomaroto
    I’m sure, there are no KDE apps installed. Like I wrote earlier, I got the updates after the Deepin 15.5 update.

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  • @Bryanpwo ok, maybe is the new meta-packages that karasu is creating… But i don’t know so i’ll stop guessing hehehehe

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  • @fernandomaroto
    That would be my guess, too. :)

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  • Thank you very much for this @joekamprad:grinning:. I had no idea the Antergos devs were making a meta package for Deepin too !!!

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  • Thanks @joekamprad for your link.

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  • @Keegan https://forum.antergos.com/topic/8433/antergos-style-de-installation-from-already-installed-system/2
    ;)

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  • @fernandomaroto said in Is Deepin changing?:

    @Bryanpwo ok, maybe is the new meta-packages that karasu is creating… But i don’t know so i’ll stop guessing hehehehe

    i think they would not be installed on already installed system.

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  • @joekamprad said in Is Deepin changing?:

    i think they would not be installed on already installed system.

    you’re right; i just checked my real pc and the packages are not installed here (old install)

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