• Installing Antergos on LVM + Grub, plus some install suggestions


    Hi,

    I’ve installed Arch Linux “the Arch way” many many times until I got the hang of it. However, I recently “discovered” Antergos, liked what I saw, and so far so good…mostly :)

    I’m currently installing Antergos into Virtualbox, with Arch as the host OS. I’ve installed all DE’s except Openbox successfully using systemd boot.

    However, here are some questions/problems/suggestions I have:

    1. Installing Antergos into VB, UEFI, SSD virtual disk (2TB VDI), wipe disk (first bullet choice), LVM + separate home, Grub2. After reboot, I’m dropped into the UEFI shell. This is the exact configuration that worked with systemd boot. Are there any known issues with installing using this configuration + grub?

    2. I like to have a local cache. By the 5th install or so, it gets old downloading all the packages, not to mention it’s slow. So, under Arch, I edit pacman.conf CacheDir directive, then mount my USB key (or NAS) to that directory. After the initial install, the cache is loaded, no more downloads, and the install is much quicker. Is there a way to configure this with Cnchi? I did note /install/pacman.conf during the install process, but I assume that gets created on the fly.

    3. Is there a good resource (i.e. wiki article, etc) for installing under more advanced partitioning? Perhaps LUKS + LMV splitting out root, home, swap, and a data partition? I’d likely want to do this if I replace Arch with Antergos for my host OS.

    4. Would there be any interest in the Antergos community for supporting rEFInd as a boot loader?

    Off topic question: other than the install process, what are the key differences between Antergos and Arch? I note the Antergos repository in the pacman.conf, but I’m not sure what that gets me? Perhaps better testing before packages make it into the repository?

    Thanks,
    Scott

  • @linusvanpelt said in Installing Antergos on LVM + Grub, plus some install suggestions:

    Off topic question: other than the install process, what are the key differences between Antergos and Arch?

    hehehe… you’ve hit a slightly hot topic here:smile:. Personally, I think that Antergos is mainly just an Arch installer for all of us noobs out there who want Arch but can’t seem to get it installed (and setup properly) on our own. After the initial installation, you will basically be running Arch. However, to me it is the Forums and the Wiki that differ in Antergos. Our Forum is for anyone. No matter how naive or unskilled they are. Recently, @joekamprad and I even helped someone that had no idea what a partition was! If this had been the Arch Forums, they would have probably refused to help this person. A person who really was interested in OpenSource, supported it, and wanted to learn more, but was just starting their journey and attempting to dive headlong into Arch. For me, that is what Antergos is all about. Friendly people who will always help you no matter how simple or easy your question is.

    Keep trying, never give up. In the end, you will find that it was all worth it

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  • @linusvanpelt said in Installing Antergos on LVM + Grub, plus some install suggestions:

    I note the Antergos repository in the pacman.conf, but I’m not sure what that gets me? Perhaps better testing before packages make it into the repository?

    I believe that this mainly just holds the Numix theming that Antergos uses and a few other packages that cannot be found / are unstable in the AUR (such as Gitkraken). Please though. Someone correct me if I am wrong here!

    Hope this helps some and welcome to Antergos!

    Keep trying, never give up. In the end, you will find that it was all worth it

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  • @Keegan Hi, just to be clear, I wasn’t trolling, it was a sincere question. All that you said, I consider a good thing. After you’ve installed Arch several times, while it’s a good learning experience, a nice installer that speeds up the process is a good thing :) And friendly forums…well, IMO friendly is always a great thing.

    I found this recently which I found insightful: http://www.mit.edu/~jcb/tact.html

  • @linusvanpelt said in Installing Antergos on LVM + Grub, plus some install suggestions:

    @Keegan Hi, just to be clear, I wasn’t trolling,

    I apologize if I gave the impression that I thought you were. I really was just trying to answer your questions. In fact, I found many of them interesting! They were the same sort of questions I had when I was thinking of installing Antergos:slight_smile:.

    Keep trying, never give up. In the end, you will find that it was all worth it

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  • @linusvanpelt said in Installing Antergos on LVM + Grub, plus some install suggestions:

    However, here are some questions/problems/suggestions I have:

    Installing Antergos into VB, UEFI, SSD virtual disk (2TB VDI), wipe disk (first bullet choice), LVM + separate home, Grub2. After reboot, I’m dropped into the UEFI shell. This is the exact configuration that worked with systemd boot. Are there any known issues with installing using this configuration + grub?

    Yep, this is a known issue. we haven’t got any time to investigate it, as it was working before we think it’s kind of a regression in our grub setup (maybe grub guys changed something on their end that we are not aware of). As it works with systemd-boot and it is really not a common setup (among our users) we haven’t prioritized it.

    I like to have a local cache. By the 5th install or so, it gets old downloading all the packages, not to mention it’s slow. So, under Arch, I edit pacman.conf CacheDir directive, then mount my USB key (or NAS) to that directory. After the initial install, the cache is loaded, no more downloads, and the install is much quicker. Is there a way to configure this with Cnchi? I did note /install/pacman.conf during the install process, but I assume that gets created on the fly.

    To use your cached packages, run cnchi this way:
    cnchi -dv -c /path/to/your/cache

    Is there a good resource (i.e. wiki article, etc) for installing under more advanced partitioning? Perhaps LUKS + LMV splitting out root, home, swap, and a data partition? I’d likely want to do this if I replace Arch with Antergos for my host OS.

    Perhaps LUKS + LMV splitting out root, home, swap, and a data partition?

    Cnchi allows (automagically) to setup LUKS+LVM using root, swap and home volumes, so you should only to create a data partition and, once the system is installed, add it to your fstab.

    Would there be any interest in the Antergos community for supporting rEFInd as a boot loader?

    If you check our repository https://github.com/Antergos/Cnchi/tree/0.14.x you will see that some initial work has already been done. To be honest, nobody showed any interest on it so we stop its development.

    This is our GRUB setup file:
    https://github.com/Antergos/Cnchi/blob/0.14.x/cnchi/installation/boot/grub2.py

    This is our systemd boot file (less complicated, imho):
    https://github.com/Antergos/Cnchi/blob/0.14.x/cnchi/installation/boot/systemd_boot.py

    And this is our started REFIND setup file (a lot of work needs to be done):
    https://github.com/Antergos/Cnchi/blob/0.14.x/cnchi/installation/boot/refind.py

    Cheers!

  • [OFFTOPIC]
    Antergos vs. ArchLinux :
    Yes! Antergos is a graphical Installer to install a ArchLinux System, but Antergos have a repository with packages for Antergos , and do the main difference to Archlinux the system is preconfigured on many places (Theming and package sets and a lot of configurations extra like services, lightdm e.t.c.).

    The idea of Archlinux is to do not provide graphical tools for installing the system, and later updating and managing packages. Archlinux philosophy is that you are learning how everything is setup and working, by do all this from scratch.
    Because of this difference Archlinux do NOT provide help for Antergos directly over their forum and on IRC.

    And as @Keegan here at Antergos we do not know stupid questions, and the philosophy is to provide help for everyone, but Antergos with a graphical installer and the possibility to manage packages with graphical tool (pamac) is also forcing the user to learn about the system, in many ways, as it is Archlinux in its core, a lot of systemadministration is done over terminal, and we can use the archwiki for most administrations and tinkering ;) All together you can simply open the bonnet and descend into the engine!
    [/OFFTOPIC]

    http://kamprad.net/is-antergos-an-installer-for-archlinux/

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