• Cannot install Kuser


    Re: How to administer users and groups graphically under Plasma5?

    If it does not work: What is the command to add a user to the group “optical”? k3b wants the actual user in the group otical.
    I searched for more than an hour in books an internet.:confused:

  • @semperlin said in Cannot install Kuser:

    What is the command to add a user to the group “optical”?

    sudo gpasswd -a $USER optical
    
  • I would not have thought that this command works.
    Thank you!

  • @semperlin Remember to log out and then log back in after running the command. Or reboot.

  • Since the topic is “Cannot install Kuser”, I have the same problem.

    I too tried to install it, and it was only in the AUR, but that did not work and the “Make” opperation was aborted. A log file was created, but I can’t tell from it what exactly went wrong, as it contains no errors (at least nothing marked as an error). Here’s the most telling output from pamac:

    Could NOT find KF5 (missing: KDELibs4Support) (found version "5.5.3")
    

    So I guess it won’t work with Plasma 5.5.3.

    So the next question would be: Is there a version of Kuser for Plasma 5.5.3, and if so where do I get it?

    Too many users and groups to assign, and in konsole it is a big hassle.

    The flazzum you spizz, the zoider you splat!

  • Kuser is replaced by plasma user-manager, and not shipped anymore…
    https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/user-manager/

    As you can see here:
    https://community.kde.org/Applications/16.12_Release_Notes#Tarballs_that_we_have_split

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  • @joekamprad Thanks, for the links. Although an answer, those links just open more questions, and as usual have no explanation what so ever (a Linux thing) as to why. No easy way to know why Kuser was discontinued and why it’s replacement is such a retarded regression rather than being an equal replacement or even an improvement. Good documentation is a rare find over at KDE. Plasma is turning out to be just like a super model; all looks, but no substance.

    The flazzum you spizz, the zoider you splat!

  • That’s in one the point exactly what I wanted to say. Plasma-user fails to deliver a convenient way to make settings in a graphic way.
    @just told me the command ```

    sudo gpasswd -a $USER optical
    

    I never understood in the manpages that this was the way to add a user to a group.
    Regression is the rigth expression.

  • @semperlin Well it is good to know, but it does not list all of the possible groups, nor weather there is a requirement to be in a specific group or not to make use of specific features… Every distro seems to have different defaults and requirements, like I have found out the hard way. And I have also found out that getting any clear and detailed information on anything, can only be done the hard way. Even worse: Once you figured out how to do something, it changes.

    Strange how after digging for hours, days and sometimes even weeks, you can find an answer somewhere deep in the bowels of git, bug reports, or articles with general topics, often by sheer accident as they may arise in topics only remotely related.

    I have seen multiple bug reports with 10 pages of threads of developers explaining the details of something (the same thing in many places), when what they should really do is either explain it on the page for the app itself in the first place, or at least when the question Erises, and then in the bug report just add a link to it, instead of explaining it all over again. That way they would spend more time developing apps and fixing bugs, and less time helping (often arguing) with frustrated people, who can’t find answers where they would expect them.

    I expect to find the details on KDE apps and components on KDE’s site, not on Arch, Ubuntu or any other site or deep within forums.

    The info is out there somewhere, but instead of finding it at the source and in context, you have to collect it from all over the place, piece it together, and hope that you can make sense of it all, and prey that there is no misinformation or outdated and no longer applicable info as is most often the case, making it all worthless!

    The flazzum you spizz, the zoider you splat!

  • @Zoidmo said in Cannot install Kuser:

    …it does not list all of the possible groups,…

    To list all groups in a system

    cut -d: -f1 /etc/group
    

    To list all groups the current user belongs to

    groups
    

    To list all groups of a specific user

    groups [user]
    

    …nor weather there is a requirement to be in a specific group or not to make use of specific features… Every distro seems to have different defaults and requirements…

    Yes, you’re right. Groups meaning may vary from distro to distro. Worse yet, groups with the same name may have different GIDs in different distros.

    A user may create or delete groups as he needs or wishes, and assign them any GID and meaning he wants.

    …And I have also found out that getting any clear and detailed information on anything, can only be done the hard way.

    You’re right again.

    …Even worse: Once you figured out how to do something, it changes.

    You’re almost right here too. Though groups meaning remain stable and usually doesn’t vary inside a single distro.

    For me, the Zim Desktop Wiki tool is of enormous help. It keeps all info, found and gathered with years. For now, it holds about 5000 notes with various tips, tricks, howtos, links, etc. about everything. Can’t imagine how to live without it.

  • @Zoidmo @just My Linux-bible by Kofler is my comprehensive collection of commands. But it does’nt help really because I’m not a nerd. I only want to do my work and sometimes - not very often - I need an important hint. Without help of the forum I would waste my time unsuccesfully.
    Time to thank all assistants!!!
    But what about Zim. I know it till now as an empty wiki that you have to fill by yourselves. Where are the 5000 notes??

  • @semperlin said in Cannot install Kuser:

    But what about Zim. I know it till now as an empty wiki that you have to fill by yourselves.

    Exactly. You start with an empty wiki.

    Where are the 5000 notes?

    I wasn’t clear enough. It’s my own wiki. Started from 0 somewhere in 2005 it grown up to this size, for now. It grows constantly, I constantly add new notes to it, modify old ones, never delete even the oldest, the process never stops. It’s like a personal diary, about Linux and the rest of the life :) .

  • I thought so. But a good hint! Why did I not found this solution by myself?

  • “But it does’nt help really because I’m not a nerd. I only want to do my work and sometimes”

    I need to get my work done all the time, but it has nothing to do with computers, besides their office uses, and there’s the catch!

    Add up the trouble of keeping up with the OS and its workings, and all of the various software I have to use, including their bugs and oddities, add in the brick walls you run into… and my work? My hand craft which takes patience, precision and concentration, so that I too can make products, preferably of the kind that rarely need maintenance and are a breeze to use? I have good amount of tool maintenance and shop keep too. I can’t just turn of a wood shop at night with a few clicks, and back on in the morning clean and ready to go…

    The flazzum you spizz, the zoider you splat!

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