• KDE Desktop Environment Crashing - Log Files?


    Hey there,

    I have been having quite a few issues with my fresh KDE install on my new system and they all seem graphical related (onboard intel graphics).

    The one I am looking to get checked out now is the crashing.

    KDE seems to crash once or twice a day. The taskbar goes away, the wallpaper goes black. Sometimes it will restart itself but sometimes I need to open the terminal (which luckly I have tilda otherwise not sure how I would) and run “kstart5 plasmashell”.

    I am hoping I can share some logs and someone here can be like “oh this is the issue”. The first issue is I am not sure which logs would be helpful?

    I found this post - https://forum.antergos.com/topic/1885/how-to-include-system-logs-when-asking-for-help of course so I know where to find logs but should I share all of them?

  • journalctl --since=today

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  • Thanks man.

    Will be posting that but of course when I have the correct logs to grab the issue is happening today. So just waiting on that :)

  • That provides this output:

    -- Logs begin at Fri 2017-06-30 14:20:27 EDT, end at Mon 2017-07-10 17:22:03 EDT
    Jul 10 10:38:37 mumu kernel: Linux version 4.11.9-1-ARCH ([email protected]) (gcc
    Jul 10 10:38:37 mumu kernel: Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=6
    Jul 10 10:38:37 mumu kernel: x86/fpu: Supporting XSAVE feature 0x001: 'x87 float
    Jul 10 10:38:37 mumu kernel: x86/fpu: Supporting XSAVE feature 0x002: 'SSE regis
    Jul 10 10:38:37 mumu kernel: x86/fpu: Supporting XSAVE feature 0x004: 'AVX regis
    Jul 10 10:38:37 mumu kernel: x86/fpu: Supporting XSAVE feature 0x008: 'MPX bound
    Jul 10 10:38:37 mumu kernel: x86/fpu: Supporting XSAVE feature 0x010: 'MPX CSR'
    Jul 10 10:38:37 mumu kernel: x86/fpu: xstate_offset[2]:  576, xstate_sizes[2]:  
    Jul 10 10:38:37 mumu kernel: x86/fpu: xstate_offset[3]:  832, xstate_sizes[3]: 
    

    It does not seem to provide any useful information about the KDE crashing?

  • Sorry, I didn’t know there was more to that with the way it was shown.

    Here is the entire file - https://cl.ly/lVHe

    I am hoping someone can find the issue. KDE crashes a few times, but I believe one of them was around 5 to 5:30 in that list. Which should be right at the bottom I suppose.

    I looked but don’t understand all that much.

  • @noobertroon
    Executing “plasmashell” should be sufficient.
    I have a similar issue and just created a keyboard shortcut to run the plasmashell command.
    J.

  • Well that’s nice and all but you really want to want to leave it be?

    I would like to not have to do that all that often or at all :)

  • Pressing ctrl-alt-p once or twice a day is no big thing for me.
    J.

  • Pressing ctrl-alt-p once or twice a day is no big deal for me.
    J.

  • Yeah, it does happen any now & then. I took a different step than jeannie, though. I just used latte dock (it s in the AUR) to replace my plasma panel. I gave it an OSX look with the taskbar at the top and my fav apps at a dock at the bottom.
    The advantage is that latte dock doesn t depend on plasma shell s crashes. So, I have a desktop I can work with whether I keep it as is or restart the session. I can only notice that plasma crashed because I can no longer see the wallpaper or the conky reading…
    In both cases you can see in the videos, latte dock is being used in place of the original plasma panels

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Oof_CRNG4&t=710s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYoilyd8vCg

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  • @anarch said in KDE Desktop Environment Crashing - Log Files?:

    latte dock

    can you provide a howto or latte-dock? (a link would be nice too)
    I have try to figure out the config but it do not do what i expect…

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  • I’m confused.

    Why am I the only one who wants these issues fixed? Shouldn’t this be a big bug report and everyone trying to find the cause?

  • @joekamprad , my first video is by its developer himself. The 2nd video by Big Daddy is quite explanatory. Here s another one examining plank and latte dock at the same time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJqaYComXSA

    @joekamprad said :

    can you provide a howto or latte-dock? (a link would be nice too)
    I have try to figure out the config but it do not do what i expect…

    https://github.com/psifidotos/Latte-Dock

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  • @noobertroon i do not have this issue jet on my fresh kde/plasma (permit-gtk) installation…

    [updates once a week] = [90% less problems]
    [Li{u}n//u//{i}x] since 1988 - overcoming failure means success
    http://kamprad.net/howto-installing-antergos/
    https://forum.antergos.com/topic/1883/how-to-include-system-logs-when-asking-for-help

  • Back with Qupzilla this time. I have noticed that most of the times plasma shell crashed, there was a new notification in pamac when I resumed session. Maybe a bad GTK app implementation?

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  • Qupzilla looks nice but I need a few extensions that it does not support. I would also rather use any other adblocking extension over Adblock.

    I do have a decent amount of GTK apps installed. Was hoping someone here could look at my log file. Wouldn’t that let you know what is causing it?

  • Firefox is my main browser, but it is almost impossible to use with our forum (only our forum) as I just found out. I was away for some time and don t know what has happened. I ll keep an eye on it.
    As to plasma crashes. If you re asking me, I dont have the background to understand the logs. Besides it happens so rarely and when it does it is almost unoticeable (at least to me).
    Hope someone else is capable of coming up with a real solution, though.
    Cheers

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  • @noobertroon Variety is nice but in my experience it causes huge systemload, and causes instability…
    But instead of this i can not see any usable logs a lot around 600 errors from plasmashell, but they are looking like debug info … so no usable information out of this…

    [updates once a week] = [90% less problems]
    [Li{u}n//u//{i}x] since 1988 - overcoming failure means success
    http://kamprad.net/howto-installing-antergos/
    https://forum.antergos.com/topic/1883/how-to-include-system-logs-when-asking-for-help

  • That is weird.

    I don’t have Variety installed. I had it installed for a second and once I knew KDE did it’s own thing I uninstalled it.

    Wow. So logs are good for what then? lol

  • @noobertroon then you need to remove the autostarter:

    rm /home/nebutron/.config/autostart/variety.desktop
    

    And as i am a Gnome Guy i may only not used to plasmashell log reading.
    A deeper search by copy the plasmashell errors one by one and search for it in the web would take you for shure to some hints.

    [updates once a week] = [90% less problems]
    [Li{u}n//u//{i}x] since 1988 - overcoming failure means success
    http://kamprad.net/howto-installing-antergos/
    https://forum.antergos.com/topic/1883/how-to-include-system-logs-when-asking-for-help

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