• Wiki structure and translation open discussion!


    Maybe I’m the only one who is bothered, but I want to share my thoughts here:

    ~ Menu structure is not suitable for making a specific subject findable, for me it looks like a not clearly structured collection of contributions

    ~ autotranslations may work better and better, but mostly what comes up is nonsense, and needs to passed by a human to get understandable.

    I would like to build up the Wiki, but i can not find any discussion about it here.

    So every user is welcome to share his/her thoughts here!!!

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  • To be honest, I too, don t like its blogish feel. Maybe because I m not used to its format, maybe because there s not much work done (by contributors) to it. Or maybe because there aren t really many things to add considering the Arch wiki itself.
    I find your offering a pretty good idea, though!

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    Intel Core2 Duo CPU P8400 2.26GHz‖ RAM 3908 MiB ‖ Dell Inc. 0F328M - Dell Inc. Latitude E6500
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  • Maybe I’m the only one who is bothered

    At least you share what you think.

    Menu structure is not suitable for making a specific subject findable

    Why not? What do you suggest?

    autotranslations may work better and better, but mostly what comes up is nonsense, and needs to passed by a human to get understandable

    That’s true. I think Dustin activated autotranslations so at least people that does not understand English could follow the articles. But yes, the translations are terrible.

  • @karasu said in Wiki structure and translation:

    Menu structure is not suitable for making a specific subject findable

    Why not? What do you suggest?

    This is the welcome page as most user will get : https://antergos.com/wiki/
    antergos wiki startpage

    The first three colums are completly useless for a wiki startpage:
    New Articles - Popular Articles - What is trending
    Unvisible from first watch you find the buttons with usefull stuff called Categories.
    But clicking on one of them put you to a blog structure, with one entry after the other, so Menu guidance ends. Also the leftside menue does not really guide you somewhere.
    I am german so i was used to use the german wiki for Archlinux:
    https://wiki.archlinux.de/
    A very simple and clean structure wich guides you to the point.

    As anarch say, it is also that always the ArchWiki will give the answear, but we have a lot of people here with kind of “highend” hardware specs, and users that are new to Linux in general and special to something like archlinux.

    As there is a lot of stuff we need to repeat very often Wiki is usefull to link the people there, like for howto post the right logs e.t.c.

    For translation problem… i can say google translate is only a right click away … but i think autotranslation can be usefull if it is optional not default.

    [updates once a week] = [90% less problems]
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    how to add system logs
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  • OK! I promise I’ll have a look into it soon and let you know ;)

  • @karasu great :)
    If i can do something no problem come back on me!

    [updates once a week] = [90% less problems]
    http://gofccyourself.com
    my-blog#k
    how to add system logs
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  • I think also that Wiki would be usefull to make clear/show what Antergos is and how it works.
    As i can see most users do not know exactly what the installer is doing, the installed packages, preconfigurations and what is enabled by default.
    An overview for each Desktop e.t.c.

    [updates once a week] = [90% less problems]
    http://gofccyourself.com
    my-blog#k
    how to add system logs
    i3 GNOME

  • If needed at some point, i offer myself to portuguese translation…

    Antergos (default OS) - WIN10 (abandoned)
    I3wm - Mate desktop
    AMD - A4 7300 Radeon graphics
    16 GB ram
    HD 1 TB
    Linux newbie since 06/2016

  • i got to say i havent really used the wiki or look at it very much. so many things are outdated on there and hard to find. i would like to contribute to it though.

    what if instead of using the wiki we just have a section on the forum for tutorials? then whenever someone posts a new one everyone will see it. much easier to edit when it needs updating. easily searchable. we could even pin some tutorials in like install section for install walk thrus. i know the how to write to usb is on the download page but what i we also pin that in install section of forum? lets pin pin and pin some more basic info to the forums for people.

    ive been wanting to write some kodi usenet type stuff but that wiki just doesnt make it really appealing. i would much rather write it in the forum. people could more easily comment and i can edit/update when i need too.

    it seems like we would get more people writing tutorials that way and easier for people to find them.

    as far as translation go dont most browsers have options to translate pages?

    just a thought i had. so i say death to the antergos wiki :laughing: i think the arch wiki is great but maybe that doesnt work as well for antergos.

  • @megaman said in Wiki structure and translation open discussion!:

    death to the antergos wiki

    :astonished:

    Yes may megaman is right, sound more simple to me!

    [updates once a week] = [90% less problems]
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    my-blog#k
    how to add system logs
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  • Hi,

    We’re not killing the wiki!!!

  • @karasu said in Wiki structure and translation open discussion!:

    Hi,

    We’re not killing the wiki!!!

    It is always the decision of the developers, you can do what ever you want! ;)

    [updates once a week] = [90% less problems]
    http://gofccyourself.com
    my-blog#k
    how to add system logs
    i3 GNOME

  • @karasu said in Wiki structure and translation open discussion!:

    Hi,

    We’re not killing the wiki!!!

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    :bowtie:

  • hehehe
    As far as i understand, not killing the wiki, but changing it somehow (like migrating to the forum as @megaman suggested or some other way)
    :)

    Antergos (default OS) - WIN10 (abandoned)
    I3wm - Mate desktop
    AMD - A4 7300 Radeon graphics
    16 GB ram
    HD 1 TB
    Linux newbie since 06/2016

  • im just kidding :) its up to the devs what they think is best :+1:

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