• Antergos with Pantheon support?


    Hi guys,

    Some of you have probably followed the exciting development of elementaryOS and its DE, called Pantheon.

    The progress of Pantheon on Arch is quite promising, too.

    There is an active forums thread: [https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=152930][0]">[https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=152930][1]
    And an extensive Wiki page: [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pantheon][0]">[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pantheon][2]

    Development and support is highly appreciated and thus my question.

    Is Pantheon something Antergos would like to focus on with the ambition to make Antergos the second-best supported distribution for Pantheon aside from elementaryOS itself?

    [0]: <a href=
    [1]: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=152930
    [2]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pantheon

  • Hi guys,

    Some of you have probably followed the exciting development of elementaryOS and its DE, called Pantheon.

    The progress of Pantheon on Arch is quite promising, too.

    There is an active forums thread: [https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=152930][0]">[https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=152930][1]
    And an extensive Wiki page: [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pantheon][0]">[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pantheon][2]

    Development and support is highly appreciated and thus my question.

    Is Pantheon something Antergos would like to focus on with the ambition to make Antergos the second-best supported distribution for Pantheon aside from elementaryOS itself?

    [0]: <a href=
    [1]: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=152930
    [2]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pantheon

  • @“beolio”:2qv8piwz said:

    Is Pantheon something Antergos would like to focus on with the ambition to make Antergos the second-best supported distribution for Pantheon aside from elementaryOS itself?[/quote:2qv8piwz]
    I don’t think so. But I really enjoyed elementaryOS. Beautiful system.

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  • Hi,

    To be true, we haven’t talked about this… but if anyone is willing to help… will be welcome.

    Cheers!

  • I think it would be easier to customize Gnome than getting Pantheon work properly on Arch/Antergos.
    I mean it’s not something you can’t do with a shell theme, docky, and some icon set.
    And there is much better software than the forked, default Pantheon apps IMO. They are actually just trimmed and limited by function to get a minimalist system.
    It’s pretty and fast but it’s nothing I would like to have on my “you-can-do-this-this-and-even-this-Arch”.

    Of course others think different. If there is enough request I would like to help where I am able to.

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  • Some screenshot about elementary luna, running on my VirtualBox, (based Antergos)

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  • Maybe you should add thumbnails instead of bombing the thread

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  • @“b1n0ry”:37mzkyck said:

    Maybe you should add thumbnails instead of bombing the thread

    who can edit the forum’s css file please add this line, to the css file:

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    This is a solution for the big “bombs”.

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  • @“I-sty”:qd85ckpu said:

    @“b1n0ry”:qd85ckpu said:

    who can edit the forum’s css file please add this line, to the css file:

    [/quote:qd85ckpu][/quote:qd85ckpu]
    I could hack into the FTP server

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  • I think it would be easier to customize Gnome than getting Pantheon work properly on Arch/Antergos.
    I mean it’s not something you can’t do with a shell theme, docky, and some icon set.
    And there is much better software than the forked, default Pantheon apps IMO. They are actually just trimmed and limited by function to get a minimalist system.
    It’s pretty and fast but it’s nothing I would like to have on my “you-can-do-this-this-and-even-this-Arch”.

    Of course others think different. If there is enough request I would like to help where I am able to.

    Pantheon apps are minimalistic, agreed. But what they aim at doing, they do right!

    Furthermore, what user group is Antergos targeting at? The power user is likely to install a bare Arch and not Antergos.

    However, someone who just needs a running/productive system could benefit from Pantheon in that it feels significantly faster and lighter than Gnome.

    So it is not about appearance only - which you might be able to achieve through customising Gnome - but the user experience of a very coherent desktop with a brilliant usability concept.

  • @“beolio”:3dq2mnvl said:

    Furthermore, what user group is Antergos targeting at? [/quote:3dq2mnvl]The purpose of Antergos is to make Arch Linux easily accessible to everyday linux users. (Users who probably started with Ubuntu/Mint/etc and have obtained a [b:3dq2mnvl]basic[/b:3dq2mnvl] understanding of linux)

    I really appreciate the work that the eOS team is doing but running Pantheon on Arch would require an Antergos/Arch developer to step up and manage the packaging. That won’t be an easy task because the library versions on which the eOS devs do there development lags significantly far behind the current versions we use in Arch. If at some point we are able to offer Pantheon as an option we certainly will do it but as it stands now we do not have the resources

    Best Regards,
    Dustin

  • @“beolio”:vji5njtm said:

    Pantheon apps are minimalistic, agreed. But what they aim at doing, they do right!

    Furthermore, what user group is Antergos targeting at? The power user is likely to install a bare Arch and not Antergos.

    However, someone who just needs a running/productive system could benefit from Pantheon in that it feels significantly faster and lighter than Gnome.

    So it is not about appearance only - which you might be able to achieve through customising Gnome - but the user experience of a very coherent desktop with a brilliant usability concept.

    The problem is that Arch/Antergos has a bigger capability than pantheon has.
    Antergos is for intermediate users who want to profit from the possibilities of controlling their system by themselves (my english sucks for this sentence I think) .
    And putting Pantheon ontop of this is like putting a “Smart” Engine into a BMW. So why not just get a Smart = Why not just use eOS if you like it minimalist and easy?
    Do you get my point?
    Even tho Pantheon is a nice eye candy, the environment is too trimmed to fit a base like Antergos.
    No problem for Ubuntu etc.
    But this is my opinion relating to my imagination of an OS. Still, Pantheon+Antergos could work.

    On the other hand Antergos is supporting a bunch of DE’s already. And some of them have some serious problems.
    The more choices you add, the more you have to work for this.
    Custom patches, distro specific packages etc. After that you end up with a system like Ubuntu where everything is patched, customized and backported to death. I don’t want Antergos to become that.
    I want it to be a clean system with stable support for some cherrypicked DE’s where everything is working perfectly.

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  • Hi,

    On the other hand Antergos is supporting a bunch of DE’s already. And some of them have some serious problems.

    I’m not saying there aren’t, but could you specify? Which problems are you talking about?

    And I agree with you, if we’re going to support Pantheon we need more manpower, and also I don’t like patched DE’s (pantheon is being worked on an Ubuntu system as a base, so many things must be patched in order to work in Antergos).

    I know there’s some people working on it atm, but what tells you that these patches and fixes will be maintained?

    Cheers!

  • @“karasu”:l5ykejm0 said:

    Hi,

    On the other hand Antergos is supporting a bunch of DE’s already. And some of them have some serious problems.

    I’m not saying there aren’t, but could you specify? Which problems are you talking about?

    In the first place I thought about Cinnamon. Some users including me had some problems with it. I am not sure if this is a Cinnamon bug or appears when Cinnamon gets installed on Antergos. What I was trying to say was that DE’s don’t always work perfectly everytime. They often need some patching to work with a specific Distro.
    And having more DE’s means the need for more people to work on these, instead of working on Antergos itself.
    Distros with one main DE like Chakra can focus on one thing and work on it to perfection.

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  • Distros with one main DE like Chakra can focus on one thing and work on it to perfection.

    This is indeed a very wise decision!

    Maybe it is worth for Antergos do focus on one DE again exclusively like it was in the times of Cinnarch?

    In any case, I think based on what I read now, we should postpone the discussion about Pantheon once it can be used vanilla.

  • Antergos is about freedom and choice. We will always support multiple desktops.

    Cheers!

  • Antergos with one DE is never going to happen, otherwise it could just be Cinnarch

    From what I can see is that Pentheon is very hard to setup on Arch. When it gets more universally adoptable and stable working, I am sure it will be offered by Antergos.

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