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    Fresh install Alien Arena Video Crash


    Background info
    Ok to start off, I’ll do my best to post correctly as I’m not used to the forum layout
    I’ve been trying for a month now to get one game in particular to work through WINE.

    The game is Medal of Honor - It is Quake based.
    It worked great but then after a short period the entire video would just shut off. No terminal or anything.
    The video signal is gone because the monitor lights turn from blue to orange denoting no video signal.

    I’ve been fighting this with the assumption it was because of WINE.

    I gave up on WINE and installed virtual box and windows xp, the game ran great, for a short time then did the same thing, signal loss of video.

    Ok, after breaking a few things, I tried a fresh install of Antergos with KDE again and installed Alien Arena which is quake based as well.
    It crashed the video as well in the same way?!

    ok, it must missing something, but I would have thought that installing Alien Arena would have installed everything it needs to prevent stuff like this
    but it must be a video issue.

    I’ve got the latest drivers of what Antergos has installed.

    outputs of the following are in the txt file as the forum seems to not allow so much info in posting

    lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12
    pacman -Qi

    I just let Alien Arena crash again and rebooted and ran
    journalctl --since=today

    outputs file
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ddhv8ov6lkdzbsu/outputs.txt?dl=0

    I need some guidance to find what’s causing the issue as I’m not even sure the journal show anything relevant as there is no mention of Alien Arena.

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    why “beta” packages?

    give us:

    pacman -Qs nvidia
    

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    “why “beta” packages?”

    oops,
    After the last reinstall, id forgotten I tried that with the same result as well.
    It wasn’t till the next day I did the crash then came here for help.

    output of pacman -Qs nvidia
    edit - I switched them back

    local/lib32-libvdpau 1.1.1-2
        Nvidia VDPAU library
    local/lib32-nvidia-libgl 378.13-1
        NVIDIA drivers libraries symlinks (32-bit)
    local/lib32-nvidia-utils 378.13-1
        NVIDIA drivers utilities (32-bit)
    local/lib32-opencl-nvidia 378.13-1
        OpenCL implemention for NVIDIA (32-bit)
    local/libvdpau 1.1.1-2
        Nvidia VDPAU library
    local/libxnvctrl 378.13-1
        NVIDIA NV-CONTROL X extension
    local/nvidia 378.13-1
        NVIDIA drivers for linux
    local/nvidia-libgl 378.13-1
        NVIDIA drivers libraries symlinks
    local/nvidia-utils 378.13-1
        NVIDIA drivers utilities
    local/opencl-nvidia 378.13-1
        OpenCL implemention for NVIDIA
    
    
    
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    Whats next step?
    I do appreciate any help btw.

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    I can not find any unusual things inside your logs… But if you want play Games it should be better to do this out of a lightwight Desktop… like fluxbox xfce or openbox…

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    Thank you for the reply but
    could you elaborate as to why KDE would not be able to play games?

    I don’t understand how a nice desktop like this would have such an issue like this
    after setup.

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    @Firespray said in Fresh install Alien Arena Video Crash:

    could you elaborate as to why KDE would not be able to play games?

    It is not about KDE but as a full Desktop takes big systemload, you will left with less power for gaming…
    You did not give any details about your hardware so i give you this option.

    And it will be no problem to install p.e. fluxbox aside Plasma/KDE… So you can start Games out of Fluxbox, and use KDE for normal Desktop…

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    I’d like to report back that I just tried xfce but had the exact same result, video signal loss.
    I did nothing except install xfce then alien arena.

    I have reinstalled back to KDE

    The hardware details was something I’d neglected to add
    12GB Ram
    nvidia gt730 2GB
    This, just installed KDE setup, only setting up my appdata from browser & email client

    lspci

    00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 06)
    00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI (rev 05)
    00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
    00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #2 (rev 05)
    00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev d5)
    00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev d5)
    00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #6 (rev d5)
    00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #1 (rev 05)
    00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation B85 Express LPC Controller (rev 05)
    00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode] (rev 05)
    00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 05)
    01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 730] (rev a1)
    01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
    02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0c)
    03:00.0 PCI bridge: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1083/1085 PCIe to PCI Bridge (rev 01)
    04:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8738/CMI8768 PCI Audio (rev 10)
    

    pacman -Qs nvidia

    local/lib32-libvdpau 1.1.1-2
        Nvidia VDPAU library
    local/lib32-nvidia-libgl 378.13-1
        NVIDIA drivers libraries symlinks (32-bit)
    local/lib32-nvidia-utils 378.13-1
        NVIDIA drivers utilities (32-bit)
    local/libvdpau 1.1.1-2
        Nvidia VDPAU library
    local/nvidia 378.13-2
        NVIDIA drivers for linux
    local/nvidia-libgl 378.13-1
        NVIDIA drivers libraries symlinks
    local/nvidia-utils 378.13-1
        NVIDIA drivers utilities
    

    hwinfo --short

    cpu:                                                            
                           Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G3430 @ 3.30GHz, 1900 MHz
                           Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G3430 @ 3.30GHz, 1929 MHz
    keyboard:
      /dev/input/event1    Logitech Keyboard K120
    mouse:
      /dev/input/mice      Logitech Marble Mouse (4-button)
      /dev/input/mice      ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse
    graphics card:
                           nVidia GF108 [GeForce GT 730]
    sound:
                           nVidia GF108 High Definition Audio Controller
                           C-Media Electronics CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device
    storage:
                           Intel 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode]
    network:
      enp2s0               Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
    network interface:
      lo                   Loopback network interface
      enp2s0               Ethernet network interface
    disk:
      /dev/sdf             Generic USB MS Reader
      /dev/sdd             Generic USB CF Reader
      /dev/sdb             TOSHIBA MK2565GS
      /dev/sdi             Generic STORAGE DEVICE
      /dev/sdg             Linux File-CD Gadget
      /dev/sde             Generic USB SM Reader
      /dev/sdc             Generic USB SD Reader
      /dev/sda             Hitachi HDP72505
      /dev/sdh             Generic STORAGE DEVICE
    partition:
      /dev/sdb1            Partition
      /dev/sdb2            Partition
      /dev/sdb3            Partition
      /dev/sdb5            Partition
      /dev/sda1            Partition
      /dev/sda2            Partition
      /dev/sda3            Partition
      /dev/sda5            Partition
    cdrom:                                                                                                                                                                                                           
      /dev/sr0             TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653N                                                                                                                                                                  
      /dev/sr1             Linux File-CD Gadget                                                                                                                                                                      
    usb controller:                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                           Intel 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #2                                                                                                                                     
                           Intel 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #1                                                                                                                                     
                           Intel 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI                                                                                                                                        
    bios:                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                           BIOS                                                                                                                                                                                      
    bridge:                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                           Intel 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller                                                                                                                                              
                           Intel 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #5                                                                                                                        
                           ASMedia ASM1083/1085 PCIe to PCI Bridge                                                                                                                                                   
                           Intel 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #1                                                                                                                        
                           Intel B85 Express LPC Controller                                                                                                                                                          
                           Intel 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #6                                                                                                                        
    hub:                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                           Genesys Logic Hub                                                                                                                                                                         
                           Intel Hub                                                                                                                                                                                 
                           Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub                                                                                                                                                             
                           Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub                                                                                                                                                             
                           Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
                           Genesys Logic 4-port hub
                           Intel Hub
                           Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    memory:
                           Main Memory
    unknown:
                           FPU
                           DMA controller
                           PIC
                           Keyboard controller
      /dev/lp0             Parallel controller
                           Intel 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller
                           Intel 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1
                           Serial controller
      /dev/input/event2    Logitech Keyboard K120
    

    I found these in dmesg if they might be an issue

    [    0.244951] pmd_set_huge: Cannot satisfy [mem 0xf8000000-0xf8200000] with a huge-page mapping due to MTRR override.
    [    8.819456] r8169 0000:02:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have ASPM control
    [   18.025540] NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console
    [   18.025543] NVRM: on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver
    [   18.025544] NVRM: requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console
    [   18.025544] NVRM: drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in
    [   18.025545] NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported.
    

    What other information can I provide?
    If I think of something that may be useful or someone else chimes in, I’ll edit and post that info as well.
    I’d like to provide all I can but unsure what all you might need for diagnosis.

    Also I understand you can’t reply right away all the time as I believe we are on opposite side of the planet lol

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    @Firespray said in Fresh install Alien Arena Video Crash:

    we are on opposite side of the planet lol

    timezoneissue ;)

    —Do you have onboard graphics + PCIe card?

    Hardware specs looking o.k. (CPU is “only” Dualcored but should be fine)

    As i have an [Nvidia GT 710 / 2GB] so almost same as your card i have issue with screen freezes on open source drivers (nouveau), a lot at the moment, caus of this i am using Nvidia drivers ( i do not play games) but also i got screen freezes sometimes… seems to be solved with the last kernel/nvidia update but i will see…
    this: NVRM messages are only caus of framebuffer… everybody will get this. (nvidia does not support framebuffer)

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    It’s a PCIe card but it does have onboard graphics.
    Today I was in the bios and updated to the latest bios.

    I could not find a spot to turn off onboard graphics. Must do it auto I guess.
    I was hoping there would be something there I could change. mobo is MSI B85M-G43.

    I did some reading on the NVRAM after I’d posted that and gathered that as well.

    Actually, I know you said you don’t play games, but maybe you should install alien arena for a spell
    and just run around for 5-15 minutes or so and see if it shuts your video down as well.

    There just seems to be something that a graphics window like that is over powering something
    but without a log to look at idk what to do, unless you know of any other logs I can look at.

    I tried Xonotic, another Linux FPS today as well with the same result.

    I just figure there is something small being overlooked, so please do know I really appreciate your help,
    and please, don’t be shy if you know some else that might be able to chime in and help solve this…
    I can’t go back to windows.

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    I try alien arena, runs without problems here…
    May someone else have an idea?

    May

    journalctl /usr/bin/alienarena  
    

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    I was unaware of journal logging individual program.
    I guess I hadn’t ran across that yet.

    output
    journalctl /usr/bin/alienarena
    – No entries –

    odd, no output at all, I even just ran the game then exited.

    I looked up the video card I ordered and I guess it’s not exactly what I remembered it was, but close.
    It’s actually a GeForce GT 730 4GB GDDR3 128-Bit

    A few questions:
    -Could 128bit be an issue, likely no but thought I’d ask

    -What do you have installed of Mesa drivers? should there be lib32’s?
    Antergos only installed the following:
    mesa
    mesa-vdpau
    glu
    libtxc_dxtn

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    AH, MAYBE A BREAKTHROUGH?

    I actually had to reboot twice as the mouse and keyboard locked up after first reboot to desktop.

    I loaded game again, let it crash, hit ctrl alt backspc and left room for a bit
    came back and rebooted and got this with journal
    here is the first part, the rest is in the link file

    journalctl --since today
    -- Logs begin at Sat 2017-02-25 19:10:19 EST, end at Tue 2017-02-28 00:31:13 EST. --
    
    Feb 28 00:02:52 Beholder plasmashell[670]: file:///usr/lib/qt/qml/QtQuick/Controls/Button.qml:99: TypeError: Cannot read property of null
    Feb 28 00:02:55 Beholder kactivitymanagerd[725]: Creating the cache for:  "applications:alienarena.desktop"
    Feb 28 00:02:55 Beholder kactivitymanagerd[725]: Already in database?  true
    Feb 28 00:02:55 Beholder kactivitymanagerd[725]:       First update :  QDateTime(2017-02-26 16:43:14.000 EST Qt::TimeSpec(LocalTime))
    Feb 28 00:02:55 Beholder kactivitymanagerd[725]:        Last update :  QDateTime(2017-02-27 23:51:32.000 EST Qt::TimeSpec(LocalTime))
    Feb 28 00:02:55 Beholder kactivitymanagerd[725]: After the adjustment
    Feb 28 00:02:55 Beholder kactivitymanagerd[725]:      Current score :  9.54323
    Feb 28 00:02:55 Beholder kactivitymanagerd[725]:       First update :  QDateTime(2017-02-26 16:43:14.000 EST Qt::TimeSpec(LocalTime))
    Feb 28 00:02:55 Beholder kactivitymanagerd[725]:        Last update :  QDateTime(2017-02-27 23:51:32.000 EST Qt::TimeSpec(LocalTime))
    Feb 28 00:02:55 Beholder kactivitymanagerd[725]: Interval length is  0
    Feb 28 00:02:55 Beholder kactivitymanagerd[725]:          New score :  10.5432
    Feb 28 00:02:55 Beholder kactivitymanagerd[725]: ResourceScoreUpdated: "626eee76-a0d6-4953-871e-c2551927464b" "org.kde.plasma.kicker" "applications:alienarena.desktop"
    Feb 28 00:04:15 Beholder kernel: [UFW BLOCK] IN=enp2s0 OUT= MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:a0:f3:c1:99:2e:e8:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.1 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=32 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=1 ID=0 DF PROTO=2
    Feb 28 00:06:20 Beholder kernel: [UFW BLOCK] IN=enp2s0 OUT= MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:a0:f3:c1:99:2e:e8:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.1 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=32 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=1 ID=0 DF PROTO=2
    Feb 28 00:08:01 Beholder kernel: NVRM: GPU at PCI:0000:01:00: GPU-8d635a38-ee9b-d113-5eec-dac59bb40c6c
    Feb 28 00:08:01 Beholder kernel: NVRM: Xid (PCI:0000:01:00): 79, GPU has fallen off the bus.
    Feb 28 00:08:01 Beholder kernel: NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus.
    Feb 28 00:08:01 Beholder kernel: NVRM: A GPU crash dump has been created. If possible, please run
                                     NVRM: nvidia-bug-report.sh as root to collect this data before
                                     NVRM: the NVIDIA kernel module is unloaded.
    Feb 28 00:08:25 Beholder kernel: [UFW BLOCK] IN=enp2s0 OUT= MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:a0:f3:c1:99:2e:e8:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.1 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=32 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=1 ID=0 DF PROTO=2
    Feb 28 00:09:21 Beholder konsole[820]: The X11 connection broke (error 1). Did the X11 server die?
    Feb 28 00:09:22 Beholder kernel: nvidia-modeset: ERROR: GPU:0: Failed to query display engine channel state: 0x0000857c:0:0:0x0000000f
    Feb 28 00:09:22 Beholder kernel: nvidia-modeset: ERROR: GPU:0: Failed to query display engine channel state: 0x0000857c:1:0:0x0000000f
    Feb 28 00:09:22 Beholder kernel: ksmserver[651]: segfault at 20 ip 00007f91687ea8a4 sp 00007ffda0051c30 error 6 in libQt5Core.so.5.8.0[7f9168746000+4cc000]
    Feb 28 00:09:22 Beholder polkitd[436]: Unregistered Authentication Agent for unix-session:c1 (system bus name :1.28, object path /org/kde/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_US.
    Feb 28 00:09:22 Beholder dbus-daemon[548]: Activating service name='org.kde.kglobalaccel'
    Feb 28 00:09:22 Beholder pulseaudio[699]: XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0"
    Feb 28 00:09:22 Beholder pulseaudio[699]:       after 14 requests (6 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
    Feb 28 00:09:21 Beholder kdeinit5[580]: kdeinit5: Fatal IO error: client killed
    Feb 28 00:09:21 Beholder kdeinit5[580]: kdeinit5: sending SIGHUP to children.
    Feb 28 00:09:21 Beholder kdeinit5[586]: QDBusAbstractAdaptor: Cannot relay signal KDEDModule::moduleDeleted(KDEDModule*): Pointers are not supported: KDEDModule*
    

    more in file
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/pn6n8dnz8f1bo7w/alien arena crash3.txt?dl=0

    It says if possable to run the crashdump before reboot but couldn’t but I did run it so maybe something in here? Going to try attach file…ok no privelage here it is, some headway maybe…
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/lgur3iizffnozp2/nvidia-bug-report.log.gz?dl=0

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    I take a short look, but no time at the moment… later i will…

    Do you check GPU temperature?

    do you have nvdock installed? on my system it crash X if i start it…
    And give exact what you get as output:

    NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus.
    

    here: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/919868/linux/gpu-has-fallen-of-the-bus-nvidia-361-28-kernel-4-2-0/
    They say clean the slot… put out the Card and clean and put back in…

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    Yeah, I saw that article as well…
    I cleaned & reseated my box when I put in new hard drive.

    No I do not have nvdock installed.

    hope the logs give a clue…

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    I can not see what is causing the x-crash inside your logs… diggin in the dark…
    You can try to install LTS-Kernel and see if this is caused by actual Kernel…

    yaourt -S linux-lts nvidia-lts
    

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    I may have found issue…internet came back on after storms finally…I will report back soon.
    It was something you mentioned btw, I just want to be sure before I say anything.
    will be back soon.

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    :beer: joekamprad :beer:
    thankyou for your help in solving this issue, I’m beside myself! :beer:

    Here is a small story and the solution lol

    When you asked "Did you check GPU temperature?"
    It didn’t really click right away, as a matter of fact, I didn’t really click till 2am
    when I realized the 70 deg was in Celsius not Fahrenheit…
    why cant hardware manufactures put a Fahrenheit option in the U.S. setups?
    I would have noticed 158 degrees Fahrenheit alot sooner!

    So when I realized what you asked and my google-fu told me what 70c was,
    I pushed the side off my box and felt under my card and the fan wasn’t running!!!

    …and for the Nvidia people roaming in here, just an FYI
    This Nvidia card is less than a year old, and I have this one because my last Nvidia card the
    fan fell out, it FELL out, center blades & axle FELL THE F…k OUT!!!

    These cards mount upside down in atx cases, doesn’t QC test them this way for extended periods?

    Now I wonder how much life/money did I lose on this card?

    Anyway, I had to rant a little because of what happened…Theres a bunch of others waiting to hear this story!!! lol
    I wonder how high over 70c it got before it was shutting down?

    Thanks again :beer: joekamprad :beer: helping me track that down!
    I actually had Medal of Honor Spearhead and Alien Arena running at the same time
    for an hour and MOH Spearhead by itself for about 4hours before that.

    For those interested gpu temp running Medal of Honor Spearhead is at 48c
    Running MOH Spearhead & Alien Arena at the same time, 54c (see SS below)
    Fixed fan issue with an Antec L.E.D. window panel fan [120mm I think] with small zip ties
    on the heatsink

    alt text

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    Great to see you playin Games :)

    But it is of cause stupid that there was no output inside the logs saying something about temperature… my card is passive … no fan and nvidia-settings shows:
    Bild Text

    Have fun!

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