• Linux and its many problems for desktop use, are things that bad?


    A few years ago I stumbled on this article about the extensive issues of Linux as a desktop OS. It is updated and written by Artem S. Tashkinov who is apparently a colourful and self proclaimed OS specialist (I can imagine him posting this in the Arch forum 😅 )

    If you take the time to at least browse it you will find that beyond the inaccuracies there is some truth to it such as what he calls “kernel regression” when new kernel versions do not recognize previously working hardware (e.g. Ubuntu 18.10 with on my Intel laptop switching to software rendering with my Nvidia video card, making multiple displays inoperable). I know it’s a complicated problematic but if people with technical knowledge in Linux could post their thoughts here…

  • It is pretty subjective. But in a sense linux is also unstable in a sense, but thats why for people less technical better to use LTS if more knowledge is system like arch ok.But mostly all is depend on hardware mostly and sometimes drivers got some issues on updating on specifik hardware. But basicly the way Windows work is mostly more bad because all is central is saved in a DB. It get bigger and your system go slower in time, because all program data and keys is in one DB if that got broken your system become unstable but basicly all os are unstable in a sense, there is no super stable os, atleast if you want fresh packages everytime :) you got million different systems its hard to test it also.

  • I am quoting a part of the article here which is in the link here:

    *"Year 2014 was the most damning in regard to Linux security: critical remotely-exploitable vulnerabilities were found in many basic Open Source projects, like bash (shellshock), OpenSSL (heartbleed), kernel and others. So much for “everyone can read the code thus it’s invulnerable”. In the beginning of 2015 a new critical remotely exploitable vulnerability was found, called GHOST.

    Year 2015 welcomed us with 134 vulnerabilities in one package alone: WebKitGTK+ WSA-2015-0002. I’m not implying that Linux is worse than Windows/MacOS proprietary/closed software - I’m just saying that the mantra that open source is more secure by definition because everyone can read the code is apparently totally wrong.

    Year 2016 pleased us with several local root Linux kernel vulnerabilities as well as countless other critical vulnerabilities. In 2016 Linux turned out to be significantly more insecure than often-ridiculed and laughed-at Microsoft Windows.

    The Linux kernel consistently remains one of the most vulnerable pieces of software in the entire world. In 2017 it had 453 vulnerabilities vs. 268 in the entire Windows 10 OS. No wonder Google intends to replace Linux with its own kernel.

    Many Linux developers are concerned with the state of security in Linux because it is simply lacking."*

    I didn’t know about this. This is really shocking. I don’t think that any system/OS/whatever is secure at all. If a person wants to hack/cause harm and has the will to do so, then he would do it no matter what. Google is always watching us from above. So…we are never alone/private.

  • It’s all about lenses! I don’t expect my system to autonomously fly an airplane so I don’t expect it to be that secure! No-one can make a car that can’t be broken into so it’s the same with computers - we should all look at things with a level-head and some form of perspective. For example, no-one really thinks Windows is completely a POS even if we say it, we mean parts of it are pants and the ethos of MS would upset Darth Vader but there’s great design in it in places and great people who have worked on it and are probably still working on it. PERSPECTIVE!
    And yes, Google is part of a bigger corporate system that collectively have access to FAR greater technology so the linux kernel shouldn’t be anyone’s first concern when it comes to security.

  • @robgriff444 Right. I forget about the "perspective"ness. It’s definitely applicable to life in general :)

  • "No-one can make a car that can’t be broken into so it’s the same with computers - we should all look at things with a level-head and some form of perspective. "

    While this statement is very true you have to look into the Linux perspective. When a security flaw is found in Windows it can take months before there is an update to fix the problem. Since Linux is a community driven OS it usually only takes days or a few weeks to eliminate the problem. That is why I do feel more secure using Linux then I would ever feel with Windows. Yes sometime the fixes end up with a regression in the kernel but that too gets fix in short order.

  • Security is better as on the powerbutton to push out the computer :)

    probably there willalways some security bugs that can be sit in for long time or short time… since more people is online and using stuf, new stuf comes and new comes also with a certain hole that need to find.

  • @Quantum_Sniper said in Linux and its many problems for desktop use, are things that bad?:

    El kernel de Linux sigue siendo una de las piezas de software más vulnerables en todo el mundo. En 2017, tenía 453 vulnerabilidades frente a 268 en todo el sistema operativo Windows 10. No es de extrañar que Google intente reemplazar a Linux con su propio kernel.

    I did not know, it’s too worrying …

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