*@joekamprad said in Why Keep Reinventing the Wheel?:
Talk about this at github:
@lhb1142 in your point of view (from a user with a bad experience on installing Antergos) it seems legit to blame cnchi for this, and praise calamares as it do install another system without this issues.
From the point of view at development and mainaining side the view is different, as they must think about the code you are using as “gui”.
most of the problems involving Cnchi
involving… yes… but lota problems are not directly caused by cnchi itself, and are more related to the nature of fast changing stuff on a rolling release.
In my point of view i can say what i feel sayin 1000 times:
Antergos is a freetime project and is mainly developed by not more then 3 Developers in their spare time.
If Antergos Project would get more developers helping on tracking down issues, and would get more donations in, to pay devs for their work, they would have more time to track down issues as they rising.
Cnchi is an easy to use stable installer, allowing many different ways to config system, and allow to install a bunch different desktop environments.
If someone would start to develop and maintain a calamares installer developers would be happy to implement this in one way or another.*
I wish I had the knowledge to be able to help the developers. But unfortunately I am an older man who has never had a computer lesson in his life. (We never had such things when I was young!) I have taught myself everything I know about using a computer and the programs within whatever operating system I am using but I do not know how to create or maintain such programs. I’m afraid that, at this point in my life, such knowledge is “beyond” me.
That said, it does seem to me that, as there are few people actively developing Antergos, it would serve them and the community better if they went with an installer which has been proven reliable. I myself have used Calamares to install several different GNU/Linux OSes and I have never had even a small problem with it.
In my experience Calamares just works.
I was able to install Manjaro to my Alienware AW17R3 (originally a Windows gaming computer with two drives - a 256 GB SSD and a 1 TB hard drive) with absolutely no problems; I have UEFI activated and Secure Boot inactivated on this computer. Manjaro installed on the first try - and that was after six (6) attempts to install Antergos (varying some of the settings within the BIOS).
Manjaro is a fine Arch “clone” but I really prefer Antergos (when I can get it installed!!!).
(I was formerly a “distro-hopper” but now I have settled on Antergos as my main OS with Manjaro being used on my Alienware computer because I cannot install Antergos to it no matter what I have tried. I do have to say that I also like MX Linux as far as “fixed” releases go. But in general I prefer a “rolling” release type, specifically Antergos.)
I believe that I am not the only person who has problems with Cnchi. Even on the three other computers on which I have Antergos installed (they all have only one hard drive and only one of them has UEFI/Secure Boot), it took at least three (3) attempts to install the OS before Cnchi would effect the installation properly.
Cnchi is indeed easy to use - but, again in my experience, it just doesn’t work properly as, once the OS appears to be installed, the computer will not boot. Why else will Manjaro will install to my Alienward computer when Antergos will not?
Of course, once installed, Antergos is just great - there is no other word for it.
But, as Cnchi remains in “beta,” and I and at least some other people have had problems with it, wouldn’t it be better to just abandon it and switch over to Calamares?
I think so.
At that point, Cnchi would be one less thing for the developers to worry about.
I do thank everyone who has read my posts and has at least considered my opinion.