• Antergos questions in 2018


    I’ve been distro-hopping for a while (lxle, linux lite, mx linux, debian, ubuntu, ubuntu touch via ubports for the phone, manjaro, solus, ect.) and now I’m setting eyes on Antergos again. So before I go and install everything again I have a few questions:

    1. What aur helper should I use? Is there a “default” when installing aur repos? Is yaourt still a thing?

    2. Is Wayland a big deal or is it still just piggy-backing off Xorg/X11? If Wayland is a big deal I’m going with KDE. If not I’d love to run mate or xfce on the laptop (unless mate or xfce has support for wayland now?)

    3. Wayland aside, out of the three options which performs best? (Things like ram usage, benchmarking, ect. come to mind)

    4. Are antergos packages (antergos-setup) still breaking things or is that all smoothed out?

    Sorry for all the questions just looking for new reasons to fall in love with Antergos again 😉

    Also hardware is i7 7th gen, 16gb, 512 m.2 ssd, intel hd graphics.

  • @linuxhelmet said in Antergos questions in 2018:

    1. What aur helper should I use? Is there a “default” when installing aur repos? Is yaourt still a thing?

    You can configure pamac to use and update AUR packages.
    Antergos devs say they are using aurman instead of older yaourt.
    But please note that AUR packages are not officially supported, so some of them may have issues more often than others.

    1. Is Wayland a big deal or is it still just piggy-backing off Xorg/X11? If Wayland is a big deal I’m going with KDE. If not I’d love to run mate or xfce on the laptop (unless mate or xfce has support for wayland now?)

    Wayland is getting there, but don’t hold your breath just yet. 😉
    I prefer Xfce because it is a great compromise on features and lightness.

    1. Wayland aside, out of the three options which performs best? (Things like ram usage, benchmarking, ect. come to mind)

    Three? You mean KDE, Mate, and Xfce? Without any benchmarking I’d say fastest and lightest on resources is Xfce, then Mate, and most heavy is KDE. The amount of RAM and disk type (HDD vs. SSD) are the key factors regarding speed.

    1. Are antergos packages (antergos-setup) still breaking things or is that all smoothed out?

    Not sure what you refer to. But as a rolling release, there are sometimes issues with updates. A wise thing to do before updating is to check Antergos and Arch wikis and forums for potential issues, and listen carefully their advice. A rolling release means it is also a learning experience. 🙂

    Sorry for all the questions just looking for new reasons to fall in love with Antergos again 😉

    No need to apologize! And I’m sure you’ll do that again! Just use it and see what happens… 🙂

    Also hardware is i7 7th gen, 16gb, 512 m.2 ssd, intel hd graphics.

    Impressive! Should work easily on that hardware.
    But in case of any issues, feel free to ask more questions here!

    A tool for sending logs: https://forum.antergos.com/topic/10586/eat-logs
    Install eat: wget -q https://github.com/manuel-192/eat/raw/master/PKGBUILD && makepkg -sic

  • Just an addition to @manuel’s great list:

    KDE isn’t resource heavy anymore, when I have nothing running it only uses 500 mb of RAM and with thunderbird, vivaldi and libreoffice open, RAM usage stays around 900 mb.

    KDE/XFCE/i3-WM

    Everybody is a genius, but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing its stupid.

  • @bryanpwo Thanks, that’s good to know. I’ve been avoiding KDE because it used to be quite heavy, but guess they’ve done something for it. Must try is on a VM soon…

    A tool for sending logs: https://forum.antergos.com/topic/10586/eat-logs
    Install eat: wget -q https://github.com/manuel-192/eat/raw/master/PKGBUILD && makepkg -sic

  • @manuel
    I used to think that also, but KDE and XFCE are almost in the same league on RAM usage. XFCE beats KDE with 100 mb less usage.
    But in @linuxhelmet case RAM/CPU usage won’t be a problem, indeed great specs.

    KDE/XFCE/i3-WM

    Everybody is a genius, but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing its stupid.

  • Also hardware is i7 7th gen, 16gb, 512 m.2 ssd, intel hd graphics.

    With that hardware you don’t have to worry about different desktop environments performance, they will be in the range of 1% from each other in terms of resources, ie indistinguishable. Just go with what you think looks and works the best :).

  • @manuel said in Antergos questions in 2018:

    Must try is on a VM soon…

    Yeah, KDE has improved on speed. And KDE has many things and settings already installed that other DEs don’t.

    But having said that, I’m still using Xfce, since I’m used to it and it serves all my purposes. Matter of taste I guess… 🙂

    And not to forget, I think apps are much more important than the OS. You can even install apps from another DE, and they (usually) work as expected.

    A tool for sending logs: https://forum.antergos.com/topic/10586/eat-logs
    Install eat: wget -q https://github.com/manuel-192/eat/raw/master/PKGBUILD && makepkg -sic

  • @manuel said in Antergos questions in 2018:

    Are antergos packages (antergos-setup) still breaking things or is that all smoothed out?

    Fyi, in the past there used to be antergos-setup packages for each desktop. Now there is only one called antergos-desktop-settings.

    There are also meta packages for each desktop, like antergos-kde-meta, antergos-gnome-meta, … that can be used to install a DE with a very minimal set of recommended apps.

    Welcome back!

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