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…I think we were saying the same thing differently…
Yes, you’re right. I realized it a few minutes after posting a reply
@joekamprad: I did not know that “gnome-shell-extension-status-menu-buttons” is outdated, so I will look for an replacement. However, until now, I did not have problems with it!
@just: thank you for your extensive answer!
Regarding the two groups of packages, I think we were saying the same thing differently. The first group of five packages is indispensable for Antergos (with the exception of antergos-midnight-timers, which is not essential) , so it should be removed for Antergos to become Arch (in the context of Antergos termination). The second group of packages is not essential for Antergos and what I meant is that they can be kept in an Arch system after removing the first group of packages (and remove them later one by one).
My concern was that, as I will be missing one month for summer holidays, I should not find a broken system when I come back if Antergos-repo disappears meantime. Or, if the system is broken, I should know how to repair it (I am new to Linux and I use it now for my work so it must work every morning!).
Regarding the other issues you mentioned, I can’t say much other that I am a minimalist and I do not have much time now to play around with icons, themes, wallpapers, before learning more about Linux: if it works, it’s fine for me; in the future, I will certainly find time to look at those too.
I agree with you about AUR and I also have only a few packages installed from there. Why don’t you like Grub 2 and what do you use instead?
I conclusion I guess I will wait to see what update the developers give us for the Antergos to Arch transition, but if for some reason I do not like that update, I will uninstall the first group mention in my previous post to make the transition to Arch, but only after the Antergos repo goes offline (now that I have set it to the lowest priority). Later then I will look at what I want to uninstall from the second group.
If you fail to plan you plan to fail…
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Hello Asif & Community,
same problem on my side…
your post is very clear, well structured and organized. It’s a pleasure to readt it and to respond. But in the future, please, try to not make many questions in one post only. Be concise and precise. One post - one question. A forum isn’t a best place for long answers and explanations.
Answers below depend much on personal tastes. Below are only my very personal thoughts. Most people will probably disagree with them.
A few preliminary notes.
I don’t like Antergos apps, shell and icon themes, wallpapers, settings, customizaations, so remove most of them right after a fresh ANtergos installation.
I hate and never use Grub 2, so Grub2-related stuff is also immediately removed.
As @joekamprad said, gnome-shell-extension-status-menu-buttons is utterly outdated, so it is removed time ago. As for Gnome 3 in general, my personal rule of thumb is to never use distro-specific, preinstalled gnome-shell extensions. They aren’t updated as quickly as those from Gnome 3 site. They aren’t maintained well by distro devs. Sooner or later they become obsoleted and start to work badly. An easy rule for myself is - remove preinstalled gnome-shell extensions asap and install them from Gnome 3 site. Only those that I really need.
I try to minimize the number of pkgs built from AUR to an indispensable bare minimum. AUR pkgs are not reliable. I try to not exceed from 3 to 5 of them.
To your questions now.
You have isolated 2 pkg groups very well. But unfortnately you have inverted groups meanings :-) .
The first group (5 pkgs) should be kept, imho. Installed Antergos won’t work without them.
For me, the second group (9 pkgs) may be removed. Most of them, maybe all, aren’t needed for Antergos to work.
Before going further, this is my actual situation with [antergos] repo pkgs in Antergos Cinnamon. This Cinnamon is young, it was installed in 2014.04 and never re-installed since then. An older native Arch installs run here without re-installations since 2008.
I added a very short comment to the right of every pkg. A comment is preceeded by the <–.
My [antergos] pkgs are these ones.$ date +"%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S" && yaourt -Q | sort | grep antergos/ 2019-06-24 12:46:34 antergos/antergos-alerts 18.9.9-1 (antergos-base) <-- for reboot notification antergos/antergos-alpm-hooks 1.1-1 (antergos-base) <-- for reboot notification antergos/antergos-keyring 20170524-1 (antergos-base) <-- repo can't be used without it antergos/antergos-mirrorlist 20180830-2 (antergos-base) <-- where to get pkgs from antergos/gksu 2.0.2-7 <-- for gksu antergos/libgksu 2.0.12-9 <-- for gksu antergos/light-locker-settings 1.5.3-1 <-- never used it antergos/package-query 1.9.r380-3 <-- system pkg antergos/pamac 7.3.4-1 <-- it's pamac; nothing to say about it $
Your groups (pkgs) follow.
Pkgs that should be removed (5):antergos-alerts <-- for nice reboot notification antergos-alpm-hooks <-- for reboot notification antergos-keyring <-- repo is unusable without it antergos-midnight-timers <-- don't know what is it antergos-mirrorlist <-- where to get Ant pkgs from
Wrong, imho. Pkgs that should be kept.
Pkgs that can be kept (9):antergos-desktop-settings <-- throu away Ant customizations antergos-gnome-defaults-list <-- get rid of Ant customizations antergos-wallpapers <-- wallpaps I use are way better gnome-shell-extension-status-menu-buttons <-- use official Gnome3 ext instead grub2-theme-antergos <-- no need in stuff of the stupid Grub 2 numix-frost-themes <-- worst icons in existence numix-icon-theme <-- idem numix-icon-theme-square <-- idem nvidia-installer <-- for lazy Nvidia users
Wrong, imho. Pkgs that could be removed.
What [antergos] pkgs I use in other Arch systems? On the fly, I’d say only two:
Yaourt. I’m too lazy to install it by other means. [antergos] serves it gratis.
Gksu. After 20 yers in Linux it’s too difficult to get rid of the habit to use it.
Please, remember, these are only my very personal settings. There are zillion reasons to disagreee with them.